With that said, we also know that there are terrible offers also being thrown out on the table as well. These offers are so bad that offers like this were unheard of with the old pay model. These terrible offers pay $2, $3, $4 or $5. This is much less than the old $5.50 minimum under the old pay model.
How are the non-tippers being exposed?
Basically the low paying $2-$5 calls that dashers are receiving are from non-tippers or cheap tippers. The pay that the dasher is being offered from Doordash for these calls is mostly the base pay that Doordash pays. I must point out that sometimes we dashers can be fooled even under this new pay model. For example, I received an $8.50 order the other day. Orders in this payment range usually are from tippers, but guess what, the whole $8.50 was Doordash base pay and the tip from the customer was zero. An order like this is a minority. I just wanted to point out that these orders do exist.
With $2 being the minimum base pay that Doordash now offers, whenever a dasher sees a $2 offer from Doordash, it is a 100 percent guarantee that the customer did not tip anything. With $3 offers, chances are that the customer did not tip anything and it's all base pay, but there is a slight chance that there is a $2 base pay and $1 tip to equal the $3 offer. The $4 offers will either be a total non-tipper with a $4 Doordash base pay, or they could be a $2 base pay and $2 tip from the customer or a $3 base pay and $1 tip from the customer. No matter what, dashers know that when they receive these low paying offers that the customer did not tip very well, if anything at all.
It's now easy to spot the cheap tippers and non-tippers |
Doordash customers that did not tip were hidden under the old pay model
With the old pay model, non-tippers, or cheap tippers were pretty much hidden. These Doordash customers could not be spotted right away because Doordash offered the dasher a guaranteed amount to make a delivery. If the customer did not tip anything, Doordash would use what they called pay boost to reach the guarantee.
Most of the non-tipper or cheap tipper calls were offered at the old pay model minimum of $5.50. There were some that paid more than that, but generally most were $5.50. For many dashers making these deliveries was not a problem. A dasher did not look at $5.50 calls and think to themselves that this must be a non-tipper because that was not always the case. Many times these customers did tip $2, $3 or $4, but their tip money was subsidized into the guarantee that a dasher received. Dashers did not care where the money came from. It made no difference if their guarantee came from the customer tip or the Doordash pay boost.
Dashers never knew if, or how much a customer tipped until the first quarter of this year. After having some pressure put on them from the press, Doordash started showing dashers the breakdown of each delivery. Before that, dashers were completely blind about how much a customer actually tipped. When Doordash started breaking everything down for dashers, it sort of back-fired on them. All it did was prove to a lot of people what they were already suspecting; they were stealing dasher's tips. The rest is now recent history!
Even when Doordash started breaking down the pay after each delivery, it did not really matter though. Sure, after an order was delivered, a dasher could see how much the customer tipped, but it did not really matter as it did not have an impact on whether the dasher would accept the call or not. Remember, the least that the dasher was offered was $5.50. When that offer came the dasher had no idea if the customer tipped or not, but still decided to accept the order based on the $5.50 that they would receive..
Does it really matter that Doordash non-tippers are exposed
Even though they may not realize it yet, it should mean a lot to Doordash customers. Non-tippers and cheap tippers most likely will not receive the expedited service that good tippers do. Good tippers will have a nice payout sent out to dashers to have their food delivered. This of course will lead to a quick acceptance from a dasher and a speedy delivery. This means hot or fresh food delivered right away. Non-tippers or cheap tippers may have a long wait as many dashers will reject their calls due to a low payment offered. This may lead to cold food that takes a very long time to be delivered.
For the dasher, it also matters because they now have the option to not deliver to non-tippers. That may sound kind of harsh, but when given the choice, why would a dasher choose to deliver food to a non-tipper or cheap tipper for $3 or $4 when they can deliver to a good tipper for $9 or $10. It would be in the best interest for Doordash customer to leave a reasonable tip so that they may receive prompt service.
Now I know my regular customers that have always tipped me good
I sure have entertained myself with the new pay model. I am not a dasher that is accepting any of the really low paying offers. I just won't do it. To me delivering food for $2 to $5 is basically delivering the customer their food for free. If they are to cheap to leave a decent tip, then we don't have any business relationship.
With that being said, I only accept mid-range offers such as $6-$9.99 offers and high paying offers such as those $10 and up. By doing this, I have been delivering to lots of my regular customers that I have always delivered to. It's good to know that all this time that these customers have been leaving me good tips. I just never realized it before as their tip money was being stolen by Doordash. Now, with the base pay and their tips I am earning great money to deliver their food.
I must say that there are some regular customers that I have not seen for a while. Actually haven't delivered to them since the new pay model came out. This tells me that these regular customers of the past must have always been non-tippers or cheap tippers. The reason the I don't see them anymore is because they are mingled in with those $2, $3 and $4 orders out there that I will never take. Hopefully they will soon learn that food does not get delivered for free. A fair tip will get them fresh food delivered very quickly. All of this will be a learning lesson for all of the non-tippers and cheap tippers, but I'm sure they will all eventually learn.
there should be a website with bad tippers names and addresses listed. Delivered 47 items from Walmart to a 3 story apt... took 3 trips back to vehicle, 4 gallons milk, a sack of potatoes and lots of bags. No Tip!!!! Guy from India. North Phoenix
ReplyDeleteIt's really amazing how some people are these days. Way too many people these days feel over-privileged like they are somebody special that needs to be catered to for free. I would honestly feel like a POS if somebody did all of that for me and I did not tip them anything. Buy yes, a website where we all listed the bad tippers may help. Every time we finish an order if a customer does not tip we just add their name to the list for fellow-dashers to see. If somebody does take the time to build something like this, I'd love to know about it.
ReplyDeleteYour website idea, though it could help a lot of people, would not be very safe. There are a lot of unstable people in this world, and a website like this could put a target on these peoples heads/homes. If only from a legal standpoint, please don't let anybody actually do this.
ReplyDeleteI've been looking into it and I don't think it's against the law to do. I am looking up domain names as I read this blog. Screw these cheap bastards.
DeleteThis is the worst case of entitlement I have ever seen. You agree to make a delivery for a set amount of money. If you get anything above that amount, you should consider it a bonus. Only an entitled asshole would complain that they got paid more than the agreed upon price, even of it is only a dollar more. I said I would deliver this item for 6 bucks and that entitled POS only gave me 7!!!! Who does he think he is!!!! Doesnt he realize that I think he should give me more for doing nothing more than picking up an item and driving it to his house?? Doesnt he see the level of craftsmanship and thoughtfullness that went into the way I pushed a button on my phone that told me where to drive to? I mean, I got out of my car, walked into the restaurant,
ReplyDeletepicked up his food and took it to him just like I said I would, and he has the audacity to pay me the agreed upon amount?? What an asshole!
Do you tip your Amazon driver? FedEx? UPS? You tip the person from the restaurant because they typically help prepare the food and then bring it to you.
I loved your quip about bad tippers recieving poor service. When that happens, I tap a few buttons in the app and get it for free, usually with an apollogy and a credit for next time. Here is a tip. If you had a less entitled attitude, you probably would have a better job than contract delivery driver.
If you weren't so lazy you would go get your food yourself, use your gas and put wear on your car. Talk about an entitled asshole.
DeleteIts obvious you live (and sleep) with your mother.... Your post screams of uneducated white trash... It translated into a pouting bitch.. Go back to your job of sleeping with your mother and lets get real give me a place to meet you and i will come to you baby wherever nite nite
DeleteI did an order from Sushi place for $35 and Doordash got $8 for their service. And I still need to tip? Maybe Doordash will share money with drivers, huh? The whole tipping policy in America is ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteThe delivery driver probably got $3 from that $8. And it probably took 30 minutes of that drivers time. And out of that $3 the driver probably used $1 worth of gas. So that is $2 profit for his 30 minutes. If you multiply that by two, you get $4 per hour! Would you be happy working for $4 per hour? If you are too cheap to tip then go get your own damn food!
DeleteSo you didn't know this when you signed up for doordash? Tipping is optional you should not force on customers. The problem is huge giant ass companies like Uber and door dash who do not give competitive salaries and push their responsibility on customers.
DeleteIf you guys don't want to tip somebody that is using THEIR OWN personal time, THEIR OWN vehicle, THEIR OWN gas money, and THEIR OWN vehicle maintenance to bring you hot food from your favorite restaurants, then please drive the 10-15 minutes and get it yourself. I absolutely refuse to accept anything less than $6 because it's a waste of my time. I'm there to make money, not spend it in gas and vehicle maintenance for everybody else.
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DeleteSpeaking as an infrequent customer I don't believe in non-tipping as a service of delivery has been rendered.
ReplyDeleteHowever as a former restaurant server, it's difficult to tip delivery percentages comparable to an in-dining experience as the service and skills are not equal.
If wages, vehicle, and gas expenses are not adequately compensated to drivers, that gripe should be kept with the service company and shouldn't be shifted onto customers since it is a tip (tips by nature are optional based off the service rendered not customarily before).
Tips should always be seen as a bonus to base pay.
Keeping perspective and argument with the true crux will help correct the imbalance!
Drivers should acknowledge that they're lucky to be able to see and select their tip order before committing and providing their service.
Most other service sectors don't have that luxury to pick and choose.
This poor, benighted clown doesn't understand how the service industry works in the US. This idiot remarked that "tips should always been seen as a bonus to base pay." And this idiot claims to have been a server. ROFL. In most states, servers see a "base pay" of $2.13/HR. Tips are not a "bonus to base pay". If you don't tip despite receiving good service, you a piece of human trash who just exploited someone for your financial gain. (Ok, so that makes you like most people, since most people are trash.) Admittedly, it is nice to see what the tip is up front, so I know whether or not I'm taking care of ghetto trash or not. And if you fall into the ghetto trash category, enjoy your cold food and be thankful some moron opted to deliver it, since you don't deserve having any food delivered to your broke ass in the first place.
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